Gentle Barn Foundation

It’s time the public knows the truth about the founders of the Gentle Barn.
Please first note I’m taking a huge risk posting this as I could get banned from the barn. If you speak up, you get banned. But I’d rather take the risk for all the animals and prevent future animals from going to this “sanctuary”.
I invite you to please sign the petition (posted at the end of this). I understand and respect if you don’t feel comfortable so instead if you could share, it would mean the world. We need this to reach thousands. There have been attempts in the past but the founders are powerful people. NDAs are signed to keep people quiet (what other sanctuary/non profit does that- that should speak volumes).
Things to note: they raised about $500,000 to open a NY location. This location never opened, followed by zero answers with where that money went. If you ask, your comment is typically deleted. But yet the MO location closed due to lack of funds. They use donations to fly first class (interesting use of donations). They ignore advice from veterinarian care and make their own decisions. I could say a lot more.
The public deserves to know where their money is going and the animals deserve better than this. I was extremely fooled for a long time, but grateful I see the truth now so I can help make a change.

The more signatures= the better. We need the board’s attention. They won’t do anything unless they feel the pressure from the public.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this ❤️ Means the world to myself and the animals.

Petition- https://www.change.org/p/call-for-accountability-transparency-vet-oversight-at-the-gentle-barn?signed=true

The volunteers, animals, and dedicated staff are the only reason I’m giving this organization 2 stars. Unfortunately, the leadership leaves much to be desired. While the founders, Jay and Ellie, present themselves as compassionate, their treatment of staff often suggests otherwise. Concerns about the misuse of donor funds for luxury expenses, as seen in their 990 forms, are troubling. Additionally, Ellie’s reliance on personal animal communication to make euthanasia decisions raises ethical questions. Jay’s dismissive comments about small donors are also disappointing. It's truly a glorified petting zoo.

https://www.stlpr.org/show/st-louis-on-the-air/2025-03-06/missouri-gentle-barn-heartbreak-animal-deaths

https://www.change.org/p/call-for-accountability-transparency-vet-oversight-at-the-gentle-barn

Worst organization to be involved with. Very deceptive and manipulative owners that do not provide proper medical care to the animals they "save". Constantly place their staff and volunteers in ethical dilemmas.

I had the wonderful and then heartbreaking experience volunteering at the Gentle Barn- MO location. Over the years, I had the life changing opportunity to get to know animals and their stories and people who also viewed this place as a sanctuary in their own way. Unfortunately, the owners put themselves and their own interests first. The volunteers and staff did their best to create a safe and loving environment for these animals in contrast to the owners who continuously choose negligent care, personal financial gain, and media fame. When they ever showed up to our location, which was rare, they did their rehearsed speeches pretending to care for us, video footage and left. What is portrayed by these people is a lie. Their stories of animals they barely know is a lie. Their reasoning behind their decisions are lies. What was once the passion and story behind this sanctuary is gone and new leaders need to be in place. Look further into their public financial documents and see just where their money is going when they send you a donation request. Ask questions about their caretaking practices and their reasoning behind them. They were heartless when this location closed with no warning and have tried to silence us speaking up for ourselves and our animal friends. Staff, volunteers, and animals will continue to suffer. Having new owners in place with the real compassion and heart it takes to run a nonprofit will serve these loving animals better.

I was an employee and donor here. This is by far the most toxic and chaotic workplace I've ever been a part of. This place is constantly understaffed and asks way too much of its employees, leading to constant burnout and turnover. Not to mention, the founders are both verbally abusive, out of touch with reality, and make you feel like you are being watched 24/7. If you truly love animals and are attracted by the mission of this organization, think again. This is not a real sanctuary - it's a thinly veiled petting zoo that consistently makes decisions that prioritize visitors over the animals' wellbeing. This place is sad because it could be so great, but it's being run in the most irresponsible and unethical way. The founder regularly telepathically "communicates" with the animals (from halfway across the country) and uses what they "tell" her as justification for controversial care decisions. She regularly ignores vet advice as well. Their finances are sketchy too - just look at their 990s online. Using donor money for first class air travel, paying the founder rent to lease a property she owns...Overall, I could not recommend this organization any less. Do not work, volunteer, or donate here. There are way better sanctuaries.

The idea of this place is great, so are the animals and volunteers and most staff. The founders are dictators, emotionally abusive, and only care about themselves. The decisions they force cause harm and death to animals. No one holds them accountable, the board enables them, and the cycle continues. The financials are shocking. The founders use donations to fund their fancy hotels, first class flights, wash their cars, house renovations, etc while the animals and staff suffer. An organization should never have founders in these positions for 25 years, a responsible organization would have new leadership by now.

I was involved with The Gentle Barn's Missouri location. I saw firsthand the advice of veterinarians being ignored. Poor decision-making regarding the welfare of the animals in their care. The emotional abuse, gaslighting, and turning of staff against each other by upper management. The poor use of donated funds. I heard upper management ask employees to do ethically questionable things, which broke their hearts and led to their loss of job. I highly urge you all not to donate to these people. There are many, wonderful nonprofits that actually help animals. Please donate to another cause. These people do not care for the animals in the way they portray over media outlets.

I volunteered at the gentle barn, MO for a little over a year. While everyone physically in MO, who took care of the animals on a daily basis were great and loved the animals the foundation as a whole was very disappointing.

When we could isolate ourselves from the founders, the work done here in MO was amazing. However getting them to provide the necessary care for the animals could be difficult - they had to 'communicate' with animals before hand about what treatments they would receive/see if they needed it while still being in CA. They made suggestions about treatments for animals that went against veterinary advice. They would make hostile comments towards staff when they questioned decisions and fostered a toxic work environment. When people disagree and speak out against things that are happening, they ban people from visiting. Volunteers and staff are expected to form relationships with the animals they take care of, and then this is used against people as threats - you won't be allowed to see the animals again and won't be allowed at gentle barn properties when you disagree. Looking through previous reviews it appears that every time a group of people start to see through their lies they follow this pattern of banning individuals.

As they recently shut down the location in MO, they provided no notice to volunteers and staff, with the majority finding out about the shutdown at the same time as social media posts and fundraising texts were sent. They said this was due to finances - but ~$4 million dollars were raised last year. Additionally, money was raised through small fundraisings locally - such as a fundraisings from a vegan restaurant in the area, and giving tuesday funds which while small shows that if anyone was told of the dire needs for more fundraising we could have organized to try to keep the animals in a local place. Instead - nothing was spoken of it. Animals were moved and animals suffered from the move. For example, Penny the pig, died shortly after arriving at the Tennessee location. However they do not post anything about her passing on social media - and they quietly moved her to the memorandum page on their site. They also speak of how they are all about compassion and kindness - yet no compassion or kindness was shown to anyone in the way the closing of the location was handled. If anything they showed the exact opposite trying to put blame on individuals in MO for why it would close. Additionally the way they handled some of the animals for the move - such as tying a rope around Chance the donkey's front leg in order to get him to step into the trailer - goes against what they say they stand for. The founders responses to concerns about the stress on the animals was that she had communicated with the animals and they were excited for their new journey!

I do not recommend this sanctuary - and recommend supporting other animal sanctuaries instead.

There are so many wonderful non profits doing so much good with the money donated to them but then there are quite a few that really do not do what they claim or exaggerate. Probably the one that most caught me off guard is "The Gentle Barn" with locations in Santa Clarita and Tennessee.

I used to love this rescue until I actually went there only to find that it is really a glorified petting zoo. The founders live in a mansion on the property and they raised over $4 million dollars in one year alone but it sure isn't being spent on the animals. They could do so much more. With that kind of money they could build a vet clinic right there on the property because it is huge. They could plant shade trees for the animals like there are around the mansion Ellie and Jay live in. They have $3 million in assets and they seem to use most of their time fundraising by pulling on your heart strings.

Before you donate to a charity or non profit . . . check out who they are. https://www.guidestar.org/ gives info on the 990 tax forms non profits have to file.

Check out the reviews on The Gentle Barn from staff and volunteers on this site as well as any 501C3 you are considering giving money to. I am so glad I found Great Non Profits. It will save me and others a lot of money on fake non profits

As a local to Santa Clarita The Gentle Barn has been a huge part of me and my family's life. Starting in 2010 we would frequently visit the barn, soon becoming season pass holders and visiting nearly every Sunday when they are open to the public. My family and I then became volunteers and supported them through fires, animal rescues, around the clock animal visits to support newly rescued and scared animals. The list is endless and the position of the animal first is always their top priority.

I highly recommend anyone who has a question, concern, issue or wishes to better understand what The Gentle Barn is all about. Visit on a Sunday when they are open to the public at any of their locations (CA, MO, or TN) and just asked to speak with someone in charge.

The Gentle Barn does amazing things for animals in need. Not only do they prioritize animals who may have too many medical needs to be successful in a traditional setting, but they have also built a real community of volunteers who all work together to give every animal the life they deserve. I've volunteered for multiple organization in the past, but the Gentle Barn is my true home. I'll never miss a Sunday to be with the animals, and my fellow volunteers who have become family.

The gentle barn is a magical place. Lives are giving second chances. The animals are healed, and then they help people heal. The gentle barn is about compassion, love, and connection. Go experience it!

I have visited other animal sanctuaries and am grateful for all of them but Gentle Barn is the best if the best. There is so much heart and so much good being done there. After visiting , I decided I wanted to be a volunteer there and signed up quickly. There is an expression that “ if you’re not part of the solution then you’re part of the problem .” Gentle Barn is all about the solution.

Gentle Barn is an excellent organization that cares about its animals and the experience for volunteers. I have been volunteering for over a year, and everyone I’ve worked with has been kind, compassionate, and passionate about the mission. The staff is also top notch, with an emphasis on high quality animal care and creating a meaningful experience for visitors. Gentle Barn is a wonderful place to connect with animals and learn about their stories!

I have volunteered with The Gentle Barn for a year and a half now and it has been the best experience. The volunteers, staff members, and owners are truly amazing beings that want what's best for the animals. Everyone is kind, respectful, and hard-working. I look forward to every single Sunday that I'm there and truly hate when I have to miss it, which is rare! I look forward to many, many more years with The Gentle Barn!

I never deeply understand the meaning if the word "sanctuary" until I visited Gentle Barn in California.

Those animals are truly loved, the staff is helping them heal from their previous trauma and are giving them a safe heaven to recover and enjoy the rest of their lives. Its the kind of environment where animals I met were looking for human interaction without any fear, knowing that they are surrounded by people who want their well-being. It is a sanctuary for me and my family as well, we found so much peach and hope for the world in this place and we will continue to support Gentle Barn's mission and their animals. I highly recommend it

Bottom line, if you are local to this organization, you have heard many stories about financial mismanagement and lack of knowledge regarding animal care. They are selling an experience for humans, not a safe and caring haven for animals. I have met volunteers who have bailed out to help other organizations because they simply couldn't watch the poor animal care taking place at this one.

My first visit to the Gentle Barn was many years ago for a preschool field trip. It was wonderful to see how the children reacted to the love shown by the animals. Working with young children with autism it was very touching to see the children and the animals compassionately connect and communicate. Having discovered more about the Gentle Barn’s mission and purpose, I continue to visit as often as possible, and support in whatever manner I am able. Thank you, Gentle Barn, for being such a bright light. Martin Buonora, buonoracenters.net

I have been visiting The Gentle Barn for over 10 years with my children. It has been so amazing to connect with these animals and see this organization grow.

I was a volunteer at one of the locations for almost 3 years. I also was a member of the council for about a year. During my time at the Gentle Barn I saw how money hungry they are. They have discussed how they did not want $10 donors - they wanted the large dollar donors. If you look at their financials (on their website) it states that both founders take in $135k per year salary. This does not include the money that Ellie makes as an animal communicator or the $5k classes that she peddles on how to start your own sanctuary. They also receive $53k per year from the Gentle Barn because they rent the California property (they own) to GB. Once again this information is available on their tax records.
In my time at the Gentle Barn I did not see them going out and actively rescuing animals. If they did rescue an animal it had to be donation or news worthy. In fact if someone called with a rescue they have a list of other rescues they give the person to call. Recently they were involved in a rescue that involved 40 animals. They started fundraising & playing to their followers that they needed money for the animals care. When the rescue was called off, GB continued to raise money for at least another 12 hours or so asking for donations. They knew this rescue wasn't going to happen & they kept asking their donors for money.
In my time I have learned that Ellie & Jay are nothing but con artists. After I stopped being a volunteer I realized that I had been in nothing more than a cult. They make you a docent to an animal so you get attached & you feel like you can't leave GB because you'll be leaving that animal.
There are so many other farm animal rescues out there that are actually in it for the purpose of saving animals!

I used to volunteer weekly, served on the advisory council for one location, sponsored several animals and donated often. Unfortunately I was exposed to the ownership of the organization. You can read most of the negative reviews here to get a sense of the concern. I stopped volunteering and donating, instead finding more reputable organizations that do more for the animals and RESCUE regularly and provide proper care for sick animals…who budget responsibly and are honest with their patrons. There is a trail of former employees and volunteers that understand this organization is toxic at the top.

I was a visitor at first and then got the opportunity to work for this amazing organization. The founders care so much about the animals and the cause. They take in animals that are in horrible conditions. They come to The Gentle Barn terrified, broken, and hopeless. I have spent countless hours being the assistant to Ellie (the founder of The Gentle Barn) and I cannot express how grateful I am to be a part of such an amazing organization that truly loves and cares about these animals. I first hand have seen animals we have rescued from slaughter and other horrific conditions, and these animals have been terrified to even be near humans, to them trusting us and even letting us brush them, pet them, give them hugs, kindness, and love. These animals get the best care possible. The older animals get chiropractic care, massage therapy once a week as well as acupuncture, ice therapy, and energetic healing. I look forward to working for this amazing organization for many many years to come.

To witness the remarkable work and love that pours out from everyone at The Gentle Barn is refreshing to say the least. To be a part of a cause that is meaningful, supported, and life-changing is phenomenal! There is something very spiritual that happens as soon as you arrive.

The animals have been healed, and are so loving and the volunteers are so loyal and committed.

Our staff is incredible with hearts of gold. The Founder and Co-founder are extremely blessed because they are extremely passionate yet humble. They truly care about saving lives of animals AND people. They envisioned contributing to making this world a better place by rescuing animals from man's cruelty and greed. Twenty years later they are not only still rescuing animals, rehabilitating, them and offering sanctuary but also rescuing at-risk teens and offering change , domestic violence survivors and offering empowerment, developmentally challenged teens and kids and offering independence, and people who are ill and offering a wellness program. This foundation is on fiya!!

I am a staff member who is grateful and proud to be a part of the Gentle Barn Family! I look forward to more milestones to be achieved and healing more animals and people's hearts!

I visited the Gentle Barn about 5 years ago for the first time. I was so moved by the animals' stories and their special relationships with the people (the volunteers and staff) who care for them and love them so much. Not only was the passion and dedication to helping barnyard animals palpable but, so was the passion and dedication to connecting with and embracing Sunday visitors. Needless to say, I fell in love with this amazing place and signed up to volunteer right then and there. 5 years on, the Gentle Barn is still one of the best and biggest parts of my life and I am so truly grateful for how much this magical place has added to my life. From soup to nuts, I love The Gentle Barn!

I've worked with The Gentle Barn both as a volunteer and as a contractor and had a wonderful experience. It was so inspiring to see a place willing to go to any distance to rescue and heal animals who have been through the worst. They go above and beyond to heal them, both physically and emotionally, even if it takes years. Every animal there is cherished as the individual they are, and you can tell they know it! I'm now a proud sponsor of Ferdinand.

The Gentle Barn is a wonderful organization. The founders and staff truly love animals and have the experience to rescue and rehabilitate them while giving visitors a positive educational experience. I also love their programs for helping children through gentle interaction with the animals. The facilities are professionally and responsibly maintained giving maximum benefit to the animals. I am a supporter and enthusiastically recommend support of this organization without hesitation.

The Gentle Barn are so great. I'm so happy that there is a place like this for animals to be rescues and rehabilitated. I have friends who volunteer there and have been there myself and just love it. Ellie is so kind, and I am enamored by how magnanimous the Gentle Barn is.

It breaks my heart when people put this magical place down. First most, not all, of the negative reviews have come from a group of ex-employees and volunteers that were not doing what was best for the barn and were asked to leave. Do you really want to read a review from someone who is only being vindictive? I have been volunteering at The Gentle Barn since April 2011. I volunteer in the upper barnyard during the week and as the manager on Sundays, as well as with new rescues and the cows. The experience has been nothing if not life changing. Ellie and Jay are two of the most caring, compassionate, giving people I have had the honor of knowing. The animals are well fed, well cared for, and very loved. They always have clean water, plenty of food, a clean place to sleep, plenty of love, and medical care when needed. When a sick animal is reported care is immediate and thorough. The vet comes first but no expense is spared in using alternate therapy along with vet care to increase healing and quality of life.

All I can say is WOW! I don't where a lot of these other reviewers went but the Gentle Barn I've gone to with my kids is NOT the same place. The place we go is great. Its educational. They don't try to push anything on you and I was really surprised how good the veagan food was. It was awesome to watch my kids learn about the animals and the plant diet without feeling like we were being scared into the lifestyle with horror stories of factory farming and animal abuse. They have a very gentle approach to educating the public. As far as doing it for the money is concerned, how much do you think it would cost to feed 170 farm animals! Its not like you can go to Walmart and pick up food for them all! And that's not counting the medical expenses - these animals have not come from the best of places and were not all treated with rainbows and daisies! I commend them for what they have done and continue to do and hope I can bring my family here for many more years!

I have a great deal of respect for the way that the Gentle Barn is run. The Gentle Barn's treatment of the animals that have been lucky enough to find a home with them has been exemplary in my nearly two years of experience of volunteering with the organization. I work directly with the animals up to four days a week, so the alleged mishandling and misconduct that has been reported on this site would be obvious to someone in my unique position if it had actually occurred. I would not hesitate to report abuse of any kind if it were a reality. I've worked in the non profit world for the bulk of my professional career, and disgruntled volunteers and ex employees are an unfortunate commonality no matter the organization or cause. I find it very sad and suspicious when people who once lent their time and effort an organization later seek to destroy it. Other non profit organizations should take note of these disgruntled people because I suspect that they won't be happy volunteering or working with any organization. My hope is that they will soon find something to fill their emptiness other than hate.

I have been coming to this wonderful place for upwards of 5 years with my family. The animals are well cared for and the people are extremely friendly. I have never felt intimidated or harassed and have had interaction with several volunteers as well as Ellie and Jay during visits. They obviously care deeply for each and every animal and the families who come here.

A friend told me about this site and the horrible things that have been said. I know people who volunteer here and friends and family who sponsor animals. Not everyone is liked... that's a part of life. I think it is unfortunate though that disgruntled ex-volunteers and staff have nothing better to do in their lives than to spread so much hate about such a great organization.

I have seen posts by and don't know who this Eric Lange person is but whatever his personal agenda is, he should not take it out on the animals and that is who it affects in the end. I have been told he has his own animal rescue that he is shaping it in the image of The Gentle Barn. If The Gentle Barn is so awful, why try to create a duplicate? I think its shameful to malign another charitable organization to further your own.

God Bless The Gentle Barn!

I donate money to help Daisy the goat and my partner interns at Gentle Barn at the Sun Chlorella Ranch working with Aldo the manager. These people do amazing things. It is disheartening that disgruntled former hires have nothing better to do but slander and libel against this great organization. They may not see eye to eye with Ellie the owner but I can attest because of my partner that these people are very busy and do amazing things. GOOD FOR GENTLE BARN. They've inspired me to want to open my own rescue ranch one day. Two enthusiastic thumbs up for all they do for the animals!

I'm reviewing the Gentle Barn based on my experience adopting a puppy from them in February of 2013.

A friend shared a photo of two adorable puppies via the Gentle Barn's Facebook page, and I inquired. I was emailed an application from the Gentle Barn, and returned it to the Gentle Barn. I was contacted by the dogs' foster caregiver, and invited to come meet the puppy. I adopted my puppy that day, and paid a $200 fee that was to include microchipping and spay. I was told to wait a couple weeks to chip my puppy, until she was a bit stronger.

Fast forward a couple of weeks, and I could not get anyone at the Gentle Barn to return my calls or emails about scheduling the microchipping appointment. Frustrated, I contacted the foster mom--who does not work for the Gentle Barn--and she apologized, promising that the Gentle Barn would be contacting me. They never did, so in the interest of my dog's safety, I spent $130+ to chip her through my own vet in late March.

I continued to try to contact the Gentle Barn through email and by phone, hoping to at least get the spay service provided, but received no response throughout the entire month of April. I finally gave up and posted on their Facebook page that I found it deplorable that they weren't honoring their promises. This was yesterday, May 3rd.

This morning, I woke up to a vicious Facebook message from Ellie, accusing me of slandering her organization and basically calling me a terrible person. She threatened to come take my dog from me.

I also had a voicemail from her, that was actually quite crazy, with no apology for the way they've ignored me or failed to come through on their contract. Instead she was furious that I posted negative words on Facebook, which were, of course, deleted before anyone else could see them.

Quote from Ellie's voicemail: "if you don't stop slandering us, we will come over and take your dog away. Because if you don't stop slandering us, you're obviously an unfit home."

So, to re-cap: in three months, I have not been able to get a response from the Gentle Barn regarding services promised in exchange for a "donation." But when I posted a negative comment on Facebook, I got a Facebook message and a phone call the very next day...calling me names and threatening to take my dog.

The foster mother is now roped into this, as Ellie is now threatening to stop helping her spread the word about rescue dogs, because my dog was one she found. According to Ellie, they only helped place my dog "out of the goodness of (their) hearts." The foster mother is now offering to pay for my dog's spay out of her own pocket to ensure that the Gentle Barn will continue to help her rescue and place animals in the future.

My dog will be spayed at my own expense, because even if Ellie and the Gentle Barn offered to do it, I am not confident that they would give me my dog back.

I hate to be critical, because in theory, the work they do is so wonderful. But something is not right at the Gentle Barn, and I wouldn't give them another dime of my money. Ellie is an abusive bully, and now I have my lawyer looking into how I can prevent them from taking my dog. The money is not the concern anymore.

They get two stars because they did bring me and my wonderful dog together, and for that, I will always be grateful.

Thanks for reading.

I have been a Volunteer for over 4 years and It is the greatest place to be. I love talking to all the visitors who have come from near and very far. They are in love with the Gentle barn and if it was there fist time there, they say they will be back soon. We have many season pass holders who come almost every week they love it so much. Please come check out our wonderful happy animals and volunteers and we have vegan goodies you can buy for a nice lunch.

I've been to the Gentle Barn multiple times. They take very good care of their animals and, if you subscribe to their newsletter, they are constantly providing updates on the animals they rescue both their medical condition, treatment and emotional health. I'm very confused as to why someone would describe it as creepy. There's nothing creepy about it. The space is bright and wide open. They provide educational sessions and family friendly events. They shelter the newest animals they've rescued from the public and existing animals until they are healthy emotionally and physically. I've been very impressed. Oh, and this is an animal rescue organization NOT a petting zoo. They rescue animals from those horrid petting zoos.

As simply a visitor to the Gentle Barn since 2009, I can say the place definitely isn't creepy at all. Some of these reviews are just bashing the place to bash the place, and they're all under fake names. The volunteers who are leaving their names come off a lot more legit and sound reasonable then the people who keep posting under fake names saying how bad, or good, the Gentle Barn is. Granted, I'm not using my real name either, but I'm not just bashing the place or defending it.

I'm just a fan who discovered the Gentle Barn back in 2009, when they didn't even have a parking lot and you entered on the other side from where you do now. I've always loved it, but the volunteers who have issues and have at least said who they are, are making me second guess things now. I actually recognize a few of the volunteers from going there and was shocked to learn about all the drama.

I would go to the Gentle Barn about 4 to 5 times a year on Sunday. So from the outside, I never really saw anything, other than the few times I watched Buddha really struggle to lay down and you could tell she was in a lot of pain. I loved Buddha but always assumed she had the best care. Same with Josh and some of the older animals. They looked a bit rough at times, but they were old so that's what I chalked it up as. I certainly hope those older animals that have died in the last year were taken care of and not neglected in any way.

The other thing I noticed was that as the Gentle Barn got more exposure from Ellen, the place got really busy and they set up a bunch of new rules. You have to wait now to go to the upper barnyard and listen to Ellie give a speech every time, unless you buy a season pass. Which I did. Her speech is about how the place started, don't chase the animals, and to live a meat free diet. Nothing too crazy but I certainly didn't need to hear it every time I went there. And it does sort of seem that they're trying to get more celebrities like Pamela Anderson or Rose McGowan to attach their name to the place, and then charge $100 to go to parties there. The vibe has changed a little bit due to their fame, but it was nothing I couldn't over look.

I'm kind of torn about the whole thing. I just got a year membership last Summer, but now that I've found out about all this, I'll keep my eyes on it and see on the Gentle Barn reacts to all this. I read they are being investigated and some of the claims the volunteers are reporting definitely need to be addressed.

As a vistior with no knowledge of the inside workings of the place, I'd give it a 5. I've always enjoyed it and had a good time and I love all the animals. But it definitely sounds like there are a lot of legal issues going on and the treatment of volunteers isn't good, so for that I'd give it a 1. The brings my final total to 3.

I certainly hope things work out for the Gentle Barn. If they have anything to hide, the truth will certainly come out eventually. It's really a bummer to see some of these volunteers who were "special people" to the animals be banned from the property. I understand that when you have a business, you're not going to make everybody happy and you might have some disgruntled employees over time. But there are just too many names and too many stories for it to be isolated. And that sucks. And it sucks most of all for the animals. They don't deserve to be stuck in the middle of all this. They've gone through enough.

Have you ever been to a place that was supposed to be fun and happy, but it just felt wrong and sort of creepy? That is my experience with the Gentle Barn. It sounds so good. I love the idea of rescued animals all happy and healthy, but that is not what I found. Some of the animals were great, but some of them were so unhealthy that I think they are being exploited long past the time they should have been released from their pain. There was a red cow there that made me want to cry. How could anyone force this poor guy to keep living? If this cow was my dog, I would have had him euthanized.

And there is something wrong with the people too. I can't really describe it, but something is definitely wrong. It sort of reminds me of a secret society that my friend tried to get me to join back in college. People don't talk freely, and they are always on the lookout to see if they are being watched by anyone else in the secret society. This place felt like that. Creepy. I won't be going back. There are other petting zoos I can take my little girl to visit.

My name is Kim Grass, I volunteered and then worked in the Gentle Barn office in 2009 and would be very happy to attend an open, public discussion as Darshan proposes with the current staff and Board of Directors regarding financial and animal care records. I have high aspirations that the Gentle Barn philosophy and vision will grow into a real (legit) functioning non-profit to help animals and children alike. Having the current management answer the many questions about animal care and financial records that keep coming up could clear up many unanswered questions and possibly help to bring the Gentle Barn to a better place.

I volunteered for over 2 years and was banned because my taste in friends was not up to Ellie's liking. Not sure why that is any of her business or why this would interfere with my taking care of the animals, but in her mind I guess it was. I helped out with the horses 3 to 4 days a week. I was a " special person" to one horse in particular for the entire time I was there as well as supplying arts and crafts projects for their Sunday events. When I first started there I felt like I had found the most wonderful sanctuary in the world. I would feel at peace the moment I went through those gates. I made wonderful friends who's friendship I cherish to this day. This is the way I wish it had stayed, but unfortunately I started to see that things were not what they appeared to be. Most of the volunteers were afraid of Ellie and I soon found out why. If you ever were to question her or try to tell her about something she would become a whole different person and not a person you would want to see or deal with. This is not a good thing when the welfare of animals is at stake. I soon started finding out that the stories we were told to tell about the animals were not exactly truths. I put up with this and decided to stick it out as long as I could, because at this point I was completely in love with these animals and felt like they needed my protection. Then animals started dying and more lies were being told about what had happened to them. Animals were not getting proper vet care and more and more of my friends were being banned for standing up for these poor creatures. Ellie and Jay believe that they have the animals welfare as their top priority, but I beg to differ. Who gets rid of loving, caring people who devote their free time to take care of these animals? Who love on them day in and day out for no other reason than to make the animals happy. Jay and Ellie obviously don't care about the animals when they drive away all the people who loved them. They obviously don't care how the animals feel now that their "special people" no longer come to visit. That was not even in their minds when they started driving out all the devoted volunteers.
I will gladly go to an open forum where Ellie and Jay can show us proof that these animals are all cared for properly and the money is going to the organization and not into Ellie and Jay's pockets.

This is such an amazing place!!! After visiting The Gentle Barn for the first time on a Sunday, I knew I wanted to volunteer there. I spoke to Ellie, the founder, and started the process to become a volunteer. That was 2 1/2 years ago and I have been volunteering ever since. I believe that Ellie truly loves animals and has made caring for them her full time job. Most people say that Disneyland is the happiest place on earth, but I think The Gentle Barn is the happiest place on earth.

The Gentle Barn is an organization that rescues animals from abuse, neglect, slaughter, you name it. Although they primarily rescue farm animals, I have never seen them turn away any animals that needed to be rescued; including dogs and cats. These animals get to live the rest of their lives in a happy and loving environment. This organization is staffed with people who truly believe that all animals and people should be treated with kindness and compassion. We need more places like The Gentle Barn in the world.

On Sundays, the property is open to the public. For a $10 minimum donation, you can visit The Gentle Barn and meet the animals and hear their stories. There are cows, horses, goats, sheep, pigs, chickens, turkeys, and llamas that you can meet.

While most of the people that work at or visit The Gentle Barn are vegans or vegetarians, they do not force veganism on anyone. They do ask that you not bring food made with animal products to their property out of respect for their work and respect for the animals. I wouldn't show up at your house eating your dead relatives so I think this is a fair thing to ask of visitors. If you want to have a bacon cheeseburger after you leave, that's your business.

The Gentle Barn also does so much more than open their doors to the public on Sundays. The Gentle Barn is host to abused children, kids recovering from substance abuse, kids on probation and in foster care, and children and adults with mental, emotional, and physical challenges. Through their interactions with animals, children and adults learn forgiveness, courage, strength, leadership skills, trust, empathy, and kindness. The healing that takes place when people get together with the animals is miraculous. I have been able to witness some of these interactions firsthand, and it is truly a beautiful thing to see.

When LA County Animal Control officers shut down a backyard butcher, they brought all of the animals to The Gentle Barn. I have seen animals so sick I did not think they would live, and they have made full recoveries. They use eastern and western medicine, reiki, acupuncture, chiropractic treatments, algae, massage therapy, energy healing, animal communication, and so much more to help heal the animals. It is such a blessing to be a part of the solution.

Volunteering isn't for everyone, but you should definitely come and visit on a Sunday and see what The Gentle Barn is all about!

My name is Ligaya and I, along with my family, volunteered at the barn from 2008 to 2011. I’m not bitter, I’m not angry. Jay and Ellie were never mean to us. What I am is sad. Sad for my daughter who lost faith in “good” people. Sad that she had to witness an unwillingness to take action for an animal that even she, at the age of 13, knew was sick. Sad for her that she lost a horse that she loved so much due to lack of care for a disease that a young horse, however hard their life had been previously, should have recovered with aggressive therapy. I have my proof but I’m still willing to sit down at a meeting and let them speak and show me that I’m wrong.

Here’s what I want proven: Why won’t local vets work with the barn? What did Halo the calf really die from? Why isn’t he on the memoriam page? Why, when my daughter had been stating for 3 weeks that he was sick, didn’t anything get done till he was down and couldn’t walk? Where are the papers on Mamma Dear showing her age and her original race name? We were told in the beginning that her race name was Ima Dear. When she came to the barn she immediately took to Addison the donkey and adopted him thereby receiving the name Mamma Dear. Upon further research, I found that a race horse name may only be used once. According to the Thoroughbred Database there was a horse named Ima Dear born in 1965. Well, we know that can’t be her. That would have made her 46 years old. Then, there was Ima Deer, born February 6, 1999. But Mamma Dear’s birth date on her stable card showed her birth year as 1990. Error? Possibly, except that we were told that she was 19 when we started working with her. So that means when she was put down in 2011 she was only 12. Is that why she fought so hard? It would have been great to have had a pic of the tattoo under her lip showing us all who she really was. By the way, if she was Ima Deer, she foaled a mare in 2006 and her name is Irukandji.

We have attended the gentle barn on numerous occasions and have always had a great time.
The place is a haven for animals of all kind .
Their rescue work is nothing short of miraculous .
We bought a yearly pass and look forward to our next visit there.
The volunteers are always knowledgeable and friendly.
Thank you for the work you do!
The Schneider Family

My name is Laura and I was a volunteer in the upper barnyard for a year and a half, with some of that time being served as Barnyard Manager.
Contrary to what the positive reviews are saying, we are not a few disgruntled haters spewing venom. We write because we care about the animals and we care that people are being duped by the front that is being presented by Ellie and Jay.
Knowing one thing to be true and then hearing the "stories" that come from the barn is nothing short of disgraceful.

I'd be happy to attend any public meeting. Good luck Darshan. I hope it comes together. It needs to.

I have volunteered at the Gentle Barn for a while. It's a great place for all the animals and kids groups that come through there. It's sad to see so many ex employees and persons who were kicked leave negative comments on here just to feel like they are getting revenge .
Because that's all it is.
I understand Erich Lange opened his own "rescue"
So it seems perhaps his concerns are a bit self serving.
Imagine if people you fired in the past could leave reviews on your company page.
Plus Erich and others just use different emails and continue to leave the same ranting over and over.
What good would it be to the gentle barn to have a forum with a bunch of ex employees and people who are up to no good?
Who would ever do that.
What I suggest is come to the gentle barn and see for yourself .

My name is Krystina Saavedra. I volunteered for the Gentle Barn for 15 months. I was also employed for 8 months of that time. I served as Executive Assistant to the President. I would be happy to attend the meeting Darshan proposes.

I was a volunteer and special person at the Gentle Barn for two animals and worked every Sunday for 2 years from 2009-2011. I would be very happy to attend an open, public discussion with the current staff and Board of Directors regarding financial and animal care records.

My name is Louisa. I travelled from London, UK, to Santa Clarita in May 2010 specifically to volunteer at The Gentle Barn. I was very alarmed by many of the things I witnessed and have already given statements to the appropriate persons.

I would be very happy to attend a meeting with Ellie, Jay, an impartial mediator and those of us who have unsavoury experiences of GB, behind the facade.

I feel compelled to write this in response to so many of the five-star reviews being left on this site in defense of the Gentle Barn and critical of past volunteers and employees who are voicing their concerns about this organization's level of care for its animals and its use of donation dollars. In all honesty, if you're forming your opinions from any sort of remote vantage point – animal sponsor, Sunday public visitor, casual volunteer, Facebook fan – you should admit to yourself that you probably do not have the necessary information or insight to refute with any sort of intelligence the issues being raised by those who have been closest to the inner workings of the Gentle Barn.

I was a senior level volunteer there for two years, acting as both the upper barnyard manager and "special person" to Billy The Goat until his unfortunate death last year. I was also a regular donor. If you visited any Sunday between April 2010 and February 2012, you probably met me, even if you don't remember. I think I missed just two public sessions in the yard during my entire tenure as manager. With this in mind, I would like to respond specifically to those comments left here and elsewhere on line in praise of the barn based soley on what a "wonderful" and "magical" experience it is to visit on Sundays and see so many farm animals living together they way they do in the upper barnyard.

I can't begin to count the hundreds of conversations I had with people who were so delighted and so amazed to find themselves in the middle of what I so often heard referred to as "Utopia." Because you just never see goats living with a 1,000-pound pig living with a tiny little hair sheep living with turkeys living with llamas living with an emu living with chickens living with cows. Right? But have you ever asked yourself WHY you never see goats living with a thousand-pound pig living with a tiny little hair sheep living with turkeys living with llamas living with an emu living with chickens living with cows?

Because it is UNSAFE.

It's unsafe for all of the individual animals, for the staff working the grounds, for the volunteers trying to cover such a condensed and overcrowded area and for the public visitors with little to no experience with farmed animals who venture into the space. When you visit other sanctuaries - and I would hazard a guess this applies to ANY other responsibly run sanctuary – you will see the large pigs in their own area and the birds in their own area and the cows in their own pasture, etc. Because this is what is safest for all involved – most especially for the animals lucky enough to be living in sanctuary rather than dying in factory farms. Yes, a 1,000-pound pig should most certainly be able to run as many crazy, joyful circles around his space as he wants. But volunteers should never have to throw their bodies over smaller, more frail animals while he does, in the panicked hope no one gets trampled.

We all must be critical, intelligent thinkers who form our own opinions based on our own experiences. My experiences at the GB – while some were so very wonderful (like falling in love with so many animals and people there who've forever changed my life) – have also unfortunately led me to believe that the safety and well-being of the animals there takes a clearly measurable backseat to the all-important image of Utopia. Because Utopia tugs at the heartstrings. And because these kinds of emotional responses solicit donation dollars. I think – based on my lengthy and very involved tenure there – that the Gentle Barn no longer raises money to rescue animals. I am of the opinion the GB rescues animals to raise money. This distinction is very important.

And this is why (finally coming full-circle to my ultimate point here) I am so endlessly frustrated at such glowing reviews based solely upon the wonderful feelings people have upon visiting the barn. Yes, as farmed-animal advocates we LOVE that you feel so happy experiencing the joy of being around these wonderful souls. But as farmed animal advocates we also know that our own joy should never – EVER – be at the expense of any animals anywhere. In sanctuary especially, the animals must come first. As someone who staffed that yard from a strictly defensive position during my last year (Who can handle the big pigs best and keep them from brawling in such small barns? Who can best manage [cows] Holy and Madonna to keep them from falling in the pig pool and probably breaking a leg? Which volunteer has a strong enough personality to keep people away from any animals who are overwhelmed by the crowds but still make everyone feel welcome? Who can make sure yet another chicken or turkey doesn't get crushed under one of the pigs?), I most definitely believe your happiness visiting there has been granted at the expense of the residents who call that yard home.

All this being said, please know one more thing: We are not a small group of toxic, disgruntled, ex-volunteers filled with bitterness and hate. Our numbers are many and we are compassionate and concerned and – without exception – brokenhearted. Among us are experts in the fields of animal care and advocacy. Among us are college-educated, working professionals with both corporate and non-profit backgrounds. Among us are community leaders and concerned parents and people who LOVE the original mission statement on which the barn was built. We just think the founders have lost their way. And some of us, myself included, are trying to right our own personal wrongs of staying quiet far too long and watching animals suffer because of it.

I understand Darshan Sergi is trying to organize a public meeting with the Gentle Barn! I would love to attend!

My name is Erich Lange and I was a donor, volunteer, special person, served on the committee for the Gentle Barn's first golf tournament, possess a Lifetime Family Membership Card ($1000.00), and rode with Jay to the Planning Department in 2010. I have been to both of their facilities. I volunteered from May 2010 until I was asked not to come back in February 0f 2011. My first visit to the Gentle Barn was to make a $1000.00 donation to help save "60 sad cows". Here are a few questions I would like answered at the meeting:

1. Where is their 2010 IRS Form 990? (update 2/26/13 - it is now on Guidestar)

2. Where is their 2011 IRS Form 990? (update 2/26/13 - it is now on Guidestar)

3. Was the structure they put up on the Agua Dulce property permitted? I can't find a record of a permit.

4. What happened to the 60 cows from their 2010 campaign; the one where they raised $200,000?

5. On their 2009 IRS Form 990, I believe it says they paid $0.00 in salaries. How is that possible with a full office staff?

6. Jay once told me that he and Ellie didn't draw a salary. How did they support a family of 5 with no income?

7. If they weren't drawing a salary, how did they pay for their Las Vegas wedding and their various vacations (Hawaii, etc)?

8 Did their Board meet regularly BEFORE the Attorney General showed up in November of 2011? Do they have the minutes?

9. What does Ellen have to say about the 60 cows that were never rescued?

10. Could we ask to see their personal tax returns for 2010 and 2011 so we can see how they supported a family of five?

11. Were they responsible for my website being temporarily shut down?

12. How many "disgruntled" people did Ellie actually send her "Notice and Warning" to?

13. When the Gentle Barn was in Tarzana(?), was it zoned for an animal rescue?

14. GB faithful have claimed that my posts seeking answers are "filled with lies!" yet I am still waiting to have that claim substantiated. Please ask Jay, Ellie, Mike, Michelle, etc. to compile an actual list of these lies so I can apologize in public at this meeting. In two years the best any of them has come up with is that I had the name of a chicken wrong (the one that was accidentally killed by one of their pigs). The truth is that I have never knowingly lied about Jay, Ellie, or the Gentle Barn.

I hope this helps in preparing a list of questions for the meeting.

Erich O. Lange, P.E.
E-mail: wherearethecows@gmail.com
Facebook: Where are the cows?
Website: wherearethecows.webs.com

My Name is Nikki and I was a special person at the Gentle Barn for a horse named Princess. I was a special person to Princess for almost 2 years. I came to see her almost everyday; grooming her, walking her, riding her, and taking general care of her until I could not take the verbal abuse and prolonged stress I endured from Ellie and Jay any longer...forcing me to leave.
I also donted money for the "60 sad cows" campaign...the same cows that were never saved. I have filed a complaint with the Attorney General and the Gentle Barn is currently under investigation.
I would be very interested in meeting for a public forum to get answers.

My Name is jackie Wagner and I volunteered at the Gentle Barn for three years. I also was employed by Elli and Jay to babysit their children and work with the horses for a short period of time. I worked closely with the all the animals and the volunteers and was there about 20 or more hours a week. Me and my family also made donations to the Gentle Barn.
I saw personally how they treat animals and volunteers and it is not okay. Because of the mistreatment I saw I would absolutely attend a meeting where the board, staff and Elli and Jay can answer our many questions. I think its time that me and many others finally get the answers that we deserve. If Elli, Jay and the Gentle Barn have nothing to hide than this meeting sounds like a wonderful idea.

My name is Alexandra Caswell. I was employed by the Gentle Barn from 2010-11 as an Office Administrator following several months of volunteering. I would be very happy to attend an open, public discussion with the current staff and Board of Directors regarding financial and animal care records.

My name is Jody. I would love to attend a public meeting to discuss the financials of The Gentle Barn as well as the care of the animals and maintenance of the facility. As a nonprofit 501(c)3, all of the financials of The Gentle Barn should be available for public review. As donors have a right to know how much money is coming in and how it's being spent.

I think an independent moderator is an excellent idea. And I even think it's appropriate to put all finance-related questions to Ellie, Jay and the Gentle Barn Board of Directors prior to the meeting so that they have ample time to gather the documents necessary to support their claim or refute those from the public. This way, there can be no "I'll get back to you on that" moments.

I volunteered for several months a couple years ago. I left for reasons explained in detail in a much earlier review that I posted on this site (still available should you feel like scrolling through to read it). Just look for my name, it was on page 6 as of this morning...

My name is Darshan Sergi and I worked in the Gentle Barn office for 4-1/2 years. My title ranged from Development Associate to Director of Development, but most of my work was on the operations side. I was also on the Board of Directors for several years. There are a lot of claims being made in this forum. I am not going to add anything in this post, but I have a proposal.

I propose that we have a public meeting with Jay, Ellie and the Gentle Barn Board of Directors. I propose that the meeting be open to everyone so we can openly discuss all issues that have been raised. I propose the following guidelines:

-Independent Mediator: Given the emotional nature of the issues raised, an independent mediator would ensure all sides are equally heard.
-Supporting Documentation: Documentation should be provided to support or refute a claim. Jay, Ellie and the Gentle Barn Board of Directors should bring Gentle Barn financial and animal care records, and open them up for public inspection.

If you would be interested in attending this meeting, please post using your real name and describe your relationship with The Gentle Barn. Here is a sample:

“My name is John Smith. I am a donor and I volunteered with the horses for two years and I would love to attend this meeting.”

I look forward to an open and honest dialogue with everyone. Thank you.

I am a long-term volunteer and sponsor of The Gentle Barn. I can attest to the fact that each week that I arrive to work with the barnyard animals that they are well taken care of, loved, and respected. All of the current volunteers and staff who work there care about the well-being of the animals. My job includes interacting with the animals to give them the attention they deserve and want. I brush the goats, sheep, and pigs. I keep the barnyard and stalls clean by raking up poop and sweeping. I make sure that there's always fresh water available for the animals to drink. But, most importantly, I make sure that each and every animal is loved and shown kindness.
In all my years of volunteering at The Gentle Barn, I have never seen an animal mistreated, but just the opposite. When any animal needs medical attention, a vet is summoned right away, if necessary. I have personally witnessed a vet providing care to goats with arthritic problems and treating other animals on numerous occasions. Health-related problems of any of the animals are always reported to the office or to Ellie, herself. In my experience, the proper and expected actions have always been taken to insure that the health and well-being of the animals is foremost. Regular maintenance is also done to assure that animals are cared for properly. Hooves are maintained, and the sheep are sheared before the hot months of summer each year. One would have to question the motivations of many of the one star reviewers who allege that the animals are not cared for properly, or that The Gentle Barn is nothing but a glorified petting zoo. Far from the truth, ... one of the main purposes of The Gentle Barn is to educate the public about animal abuse and the work that goes on daily there. That is why it is open to the public only one day of the week and only between 10 am and 2pm, instead of being open everyday. Most of the animals love the extra attention given them on Sundays. The good work continues at The Gentle Barn during the weekdays, when children from schools, disadvantaged homes, senior citizens, disabled adults and children, troubled youth, and abused children and teens have an opportunity to visit with the animals, learn to respect all living things, and help with the healing process. Be the judge yourself, rather than give credence to the negative reviews that some want you to believe due to a hidden agenda. Come visit The Gentle Barn on a Sunday, and make up your own mind. As for myself, I will continue to financially support and volunteer for this organization, because I've personally seen the good work it does.

Our family loves the Gentle Barn. It is a great way to spend a Sunday. You'll meet a variety of animals including cows, sheep, goats, pigs, chickens, emu, and more. Don't miss feeding carrots to the horses and the adorable burro Addison! Your kids will be thrilled! The staff keeps the place pristine. The animals are well loved and cared for. When you see how confident the animals are around people, it's obvious they've been shown love and kindness by the staff and volunteers who interact with them daily.
Despite my busy life, I've been volunteering about 10 hours a week for going on 2 years, because I truly believe in their mission. It has been life changing to witness sick, starving animals who have been rescued and brought back to health, to live out their days in a comfortable loving environment. Words can't express how much I've come to adore these amazing animals and I'm forever grateful to Ellie and Jay for rescuing them! The staff at Gentle barn work tirelessly to make sure all of the animals have the best possible care and nutrition. The animals are safe, secure, and loved, that's really what it's all about!
I hope everyone will stop and consider the aminals when writing a review, they are innocent and they depend on donation dollars for their care. If you are truly an animal lover, please put them first!
Kris Bowlby

This is one of the most wonderful experiences. I have taken my daughter her many times, both individually and with her school. We have had the BEST time ever and everyone was so nice and welcoming. It was only $10.00 to gain entrance (which goes to supporting the welfare of the animals). We were able to play with the animals, brush a horse, and pet a pig's belly! It was the most fun we have had. It was also very clean and the animals were obviously very well cared for. I definitely will go many times again! Thank you Gentle Barn!

The Gentle Barn is one of my favotite places.....a beautiful and peaceful place full of love and with people who care about these wonderful creatures. The animals are healthy and SO happy. Ellie, Jay and all of the volunteers do everything possible to heal, help and nourish all of the animals and to teach them that they never need to fear humans again. At The Gentle Barn they will live the rest of their lives in love, peace anf truth. If it wasn't for The Gentle Barn these beautiful animals would still be living in fear and abuse and some would have been destroyed. No animal should have to live like that. If you live in the Los Angeles area, I highly recommend you visit The Gentle Barn and see first hand. You will leave with a huge smile, a warm heart and amazing memories. It is a magical place!

BWT, I see someone wrote that if you call or email them, that they will not respond. I know first hand that they do! I have contacted them and they have responded to me every single time.

The past 4 years I have volunteered at The Gentle Barn 4 or 5 times per week for 1 ½-2 hours each visit. I pick up poop, pat the animals, supply carrot treats, and for the past 1 ½ years groom Bonsai and Addison. I am a retired High School teacher that learned in 34 yrs. to pay close attention to my surroundings.
Never have I seen an animal in the upper barnyard (goats, pigs, chickens, etc.) or lower corrals (cows, horses, and the donkey Addison) that was in distress and not being cared for. Manuel is very conscientious in addressing minor cuts and abrasions, and seriously sick or injured animals are either visited by a vet or taken to a medical facility. For example, recently an old turkey was given a soft, warm bed and stayed inside the main office as a greeter. The horses have their hooves trimmed and shoes replaced regularly. A man comes to the GB to administer ultra-sound treatments to horses with joint problems. Just last week a vet/dentist cared for the horses’ tooth problems.
Furthermore, the animals’ living areas are kept very clean, the water changed regularly, blankets provided, and they are well fed with specialized diets appropriate to their age and/or health needs. The animals get regular attention and companionship from volunteers, Ellie, Manuel, and visitors. The upper barnyard area has been particularly well managed with volunteers working in shifts during the day and even staying through the night in emergency situations. Each of the horses (and Addison) are groomed daily. Aldo and Rene keep the GB neat and clean with tree pruning, debris pick-up, and general maintenance. The GB is striving to improve.
The suggestion that animals are healthy when they arrive at the GB is not entirely correct. Some may be “healthy” but had been just days away from the actions of back-yard butchers. Others do have physical wounds, psychological problems, or have just been neglected or abused. For example, the horses Patrick and Andrew came to the GB 3-or-4 months ago malnourished and frightened. Today, they look beautiful, healthy, and are no longer painfully shy. Stories of this kind are repeated throughout the GB. Unfortunately, animals get old, some get sick, and others come to the GB in poor condition. They cannot live forever, but every effort is made to give them a very good quality of life while at the GB.
Lastly, I must report that I have observed far too many “volunteers” who believe they know more about the care and well-being of the animals than the personnel whose responsibility it is to care for them. These volunteers become possessive of the animals and start telling Jay and Ellie what should and should not be done. These misguided people are doing the animals a real disfavor. It appears to me that the many negative comments are the sour grapes of these individuals.
All of you (shamefully anonymous) critics need to visit the Gentle Barn on a Sunday morning and observe the smiles of joy and listen to the exclamations of happiness as young families share in the wonder of actually feeding and/or touching a horse, or goat, or llama. As we all do, the GB makes mistakes, but the coming together of a joyous place for young people and a safe haven for animals is an opportunity that our community cannot afford to lose.
John M. Clark

My name is Erich Lange and I was among the first volunteers to be banned from the Gentle Barn. But I was first and foremost a DONOR.

My initial experience with the Gentle Barn was in 2010 from a forwarded e-mail my wife received regarding the emergency rescue of 60 cows. To view a posted copy of that e-mail go to: http://www.lizardmarsh.net/2010/05/los-angeles-county-ca-sixty-sad.html

Up until that time I had never even heard of this organization. My wife and I were so taken in by the story that I stopped by their facility in person the following day, called the number on the sign, and was met at the gate by office staff member Darshan Sergi. I presented him with a check for $1000.00 and wrote on the comments section "Cows" (in reference to the 60 cows). He asked if I wanted a tour of the facility and I said no, I just wanted to help save those 60 cows. A more complete version of our stories can be found on my website: wherearethecows.webs.com

To this date, I still don't know what happened to the cows. While some of the other posters here may be "disgruntled" volunteers and employees, I would classify myself more as "one pissed-off donor"! We did become volunteers, fully believing are donation was going toward rescuing the cows, and spent roughly 8 months there before we were asked not to come back. The last time we were on the property and saw the animals we loved was on February 24, 2011, two years ago today. Not so happy anniversary :-( .

So, by now most of you know that the Gentle Barn is under investigation. This is not a "lie" or "false statement". I have spoken to the lead investigator and his assistant at the California Department of Justice, Office of the Attorney General. As horrible as some of the stories posted here are regarding animal neglect and mistreatment of volunteers and staff, I believe the reason for this particular investigation is in regard to the use of foundation money for personal purposes by the founder and her husband, and for fraudulent fund-raising practices.

I'm sure it is difficult for readers of these reviews to figure out what the truth is. Seriously, have you ever seen any other organization's reviews that seem to be either all good (5 stars), or all bad (1 star), with very little middle ground?

I have been attempting to sort out the truth for two years and have compiled a lot of information. I will be discussing what I have learned on a Facebook page called "Where are the Cows?" and also (eventually) in my book that goes by the same title "Where are the Cows?". Please join me on Facebook if you are interesting in finding answers. Answers that we as donors, former volunteers or employees, not only request, but demand. Answers and information you probably won't find on the Gentle Barn's Facebook page or their website.

Posted in honor, truth, and integrity,

Erich O. Lange, MSCE, P.E.
e-mail: wherearethecows@gmail.com

As a weekly volunteer at The Gentle Barn for more than two years, I have not experienced any of the negative problems that some reviewers have noted in their one star reviews. From my weekly experience volunteering in the barnyard, I can definitely state that The Gentle Barn maintains its premises in an exemplary manner. The volunteers and staff make cleanliness a priority. The animals are well taken care of and any animals that need treatment are seen by vets. I have personally witnessed animals receiving chiropractic treatments for arthritic conditions and treatments for other problems. Since most of the animals have been rescued from abuse, neglect, and adverse situations, they tend to have more physical problems as a result. The Gentle Barn works with all their animals, providing love, care, respect, and kindness each day. Believe me when I say that if I thought animals were being mistreated, I definitely would be vocal and take action. The truth is that the animals are being taken care of properly. This past year was a difficult one, because a number of the original animals died due to old age and problems associated with their former abuse and/or neglect. Almost all lived past their normal life span due to the care given them at The Gentle Barn. I have personally brought to the attention of Ellie or Michelle any concerns or animal health-related issues and have always been met with a thank you for letting me know or the vet has already been notified. Once when I informed Ellie that a goat had diarrhea, she immediately got a damp towel to gently clean and wipe the goat's behind. She added that the goat was started on medication already. This is not a description of someone who does not care, but just the opposite. I can only go by what I have personally seen and experienced. I am currently a sponsor, as well as, a volunteer. I intend to continue to do both to what I consider an outstanding organization.

As animal advocates and educated individuals, it is our responsibility to vet the organizations we support. It is our responsibility to hold them accountable to the highest standards – for the good of both the animals in their care and the overall health of the animal rescue community. We must question everything we read and everything we are told and not allow ourselves to fall victim to emotionally manipulative stories and photographs. And we must never, EVER allow the truth to be manipulated in any way. For all the animals we have ever loved, for all the animals who have made it to sanctuary and, most of all, for the millions and millions who NEVER WILL, we must endlessly seek the truth in every situation and live by our highest ethics.

If you are not allowed to ask questions, something is probably wrong. If the dates don't add up and the math doesn't work, something is probably wrong. If you're involved with an organization where you are not sure where the money is going, or where animal care seems negligent in any way, if that little nagging voice in your head starts saying something seems wrong...you are probably very right.


In April 2012 a popular animal sanctuary in Santa Clarita, California took in many severely abused animals from local authorities following an investigation of a now convicted backyard butcher. As quoted by the sanctuary's founder at the time of rescue, the animals were "...emaciated, malnourished, scared to death, they have infections, open sores, are infested with parasites, their eyes are infected causing blindness, their noses are runny and they have hacking coughs. They have high fevers..."

Over the past few weeks this sanctuary has been announcing births from some of the sheep rescued in last year's operation. This may bring joy to your hearts, as a lamb born into the safety of sanctuary is always wonderful news, but if you take a moment to research the gestation period of sheep, that joy may not be long-lasting. The gestation period for sheep is 145 days.

These sheep were rescued in April 2012 and started giving birth in January of 2013, which means they were impregnated six months after being brought to sanctuary.

Either this sanctuary is grossly unskilled at detecting the differences between male and female genitalia and, as a result of this ignorance, were not able to separate them at the time of rescue, or they simply allowed these sick and terrified animals to breed.

Evidence of neglect in basic understanding of reproduction and healthcare, or blatant breeding of rescued sheep should bring us all pause.

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UPDATE 2/18/13: The sanctuary in question has responded to inquiries about the birth of the lambs with the following (names redacted):

"(......) policy is to never breed, if we have room for more animals we want to rescue them, not make them. When we rescued the animals from the backyard butcher, (......) was a tiny baby and when he was a couple of months old it was time to neuter him but he was very sick and the vet said we needed to wait to he could get stronger. we were going to separate him from the others but the vet assured us that he was too young to do anything. We neutered him when he was only 4 months old, but apparently he did do something. The babies that he has created will live in peace at (......) with their moms for the rest of their lives and the one male that was born will absolutely be neutered at 8 weeks!"

If this lamb was "tiny" at rescue in April and was neutered at four months of age, his surgery would have been in July. The sheep who have been giving birth over the last few weeks were impregnated in September - two months after they claim the lamb was neutered.

It is vital to question and verify everything, especially when the innocent are at risk of neglect or exploitation.

I have been a sponsor to a Gentle Barn animal for almost 3 years and have given a sponsorship as a Christmas gift to my most cherished sister. I SO wish there were a Gentle barn near me (Minnesota) so I, too, could hug, comfort and love abused animals back to health and the life they deserve. i truly do not know how an organization can be so committed to animals and fellow-sentient-beings that they give them homes until they pass into the next world. I've been a long-time volunteer at a local so-called Humane society - and have walked, played with and, yes, hugged some wonderful dogs - some got adopted and some (a crime in my mind) got sent back to where they came from. When two local "humane" socities tried to combine operations a few years ago, it brought out the same hateful, vitriolic words and actions that some of the posters have written here. When I heard that the director of the combined organization had a salary of $160,000 I quit the organization immediately. Hoow many homeless animals could this ghastly sum have helped find forever homes instead of giving them the "blue" cocktail. Someday my sister and I WILL have the joy of visiting the Gentle Barn and hug each and every animal they will let us hug. Please stop slandering this organization, which showers so many souls with love.

We went to the Gentle Barn last Sunday and had a wonderful time. There was a $10 donation at the door which we found reasonable and knew that it went to a good cause. It was left up to the parents of babies and young children how much they wanted to donate for them. We brushed cows and fed carrots to the horses. The orientation by the founder was interesting and informative. We thoroughly enjoyed the upper barnyard. We got to give a belly rub to a pig, cuddle a turkey and pet many goats. Some animals did not want to be approached or petted and that was respected. All the volunteers were pleasant and knowledgeable. Before we left we enjoyed vegan pizza and cupcakes. We all had a great time and will come back often.

I am a current and long term volunteer at the Gentle Barn. I was just reading many of the negative reviews from supposed former volunteers at the GB. Where in the world are these stories coming from? I work every week in the barnyard right in front of Jay & Ellie's house. There are no personal assistants, lavish parties or sick and dying animals. What a crock. Someone is really ticked off, but the stories are not true. The animals are very well taken care of in both locations. These people have shown to be very caring and concerned about all their animals, as are the staff and volunteers who work with them on a regular basis. Please continue to support this worthwhile organization. If anything should be questioned, it's the motive behind these hate attacks.

I started as a volunteer five years ago and have seen so many wonderful and magical things happen at the Gentle Barn.
The Gentle Barn is not only here to rescue and save hundreds of animals from likely death and abuse but also to teach children,!some learning disabled some physically disabled and some with no disabilities about violence prevention.
I have seen adults with disabilities go through here and leave with a smile from ear to ear.
I have helped raise 50 plus animals saving them from severe neglect and abuse. They are now strong and healthy and very happy to spend their lives here.
This is an amazing organization .
It's really sad that some of the past employees and volunteers who didn't see the big picture and were ultimately here for them selves trying to fill a void in their lives have stooped to such childish behavior and leave nasty and FALSE comments here.
Well you can't please all people but we shure do please all our animals!
Added 2-23
As for living at the gentle barn, I am now currently employed by the gentle barn and as part of my pay am able to live on the premises so the animals are under constant supervision. Many of the animals need 24 hour care and that's why I'm here.
The coward "truthwillbeknown" who posted I must leave positive feedback is just that. You lash out at people for their own feelings and how dare you post anything different. You cower behind a false name and slander people for their views because they are not the same as yours.
Perhaps this behavior is why you were asked to leave?
Your statements are a false and you should just go on with your life and leave us to do our job and speak freely about what we love.

I hope if you are reading these reviews you will look at the wording of each of them a realize they are the same people changing their names. They have been asked to leave the gentle barn because of problems they were causing and now are upset. It's unfortunate they sit in front of a computer all day to leave lies and negative comments all over different sites because they hurting the animals in the process. Everything these people are doing is for personal gain and not trying to speak up for the animals. I hope you go to the gentle barn and see for yourself how crazy these people are and how absurd these lies and stories are.

Sad to reveal the the truth about The Gentle Barn, I too thought this was a wonderful organazation, until recently receiving some very negative information about the GB not being on the up and up, being in the animal rescue circle, this type of news travels fast for the safe care of "our" animals. The Gentle Barn is currenting under investagation from the Attorney General, for good reason, mis-use of donations, as well as not caring for their animals as they state. I was on a GB blog today, 2/20/13 and yesterday 2/19/13, for the little filly with the deformed legs, from South Carolina, it is, as with all animals a very sad story. I received the information and decided to share this information with other bloggers, as always with these poor sweet animals, people will donate their last dime to help them, I posted on this particular site with the filly as I had noticed that the GB had put this post up seveal times, it is a heartbreaking picture. I suggested that the donors Google the GB to see what others had to say. Long story short, I also suggested this morning that we ask the GENTLE BARN to post pictures of the filly getting transfered from South Carolina to Kentucky for her surgery, her arrival there, the name of the vet and the hospital that is to do the surgery, as well as a picture story of this little gals recovery. I also mentioned "The 60 sad Cows from California" it was a huge donation effort on the part of GENTLE BARN, the cost was $200, 000, which was for the cows and the barns that were to be built. They did in fact raise this amount, then all news of the 60 cows was taken from all sites, and to this day not one barn has been built nor one of the 60 cows has anyone seen. Google all on the 60 sad Cows. After posting this today Gentle Barn deleted everything myself and others wrote about them and their practices. As well as all links to this page. They left all the postings that praise the GB and of course the ones that are donating to them, this action in itself speaks volumes.
If you continue to read all of these reviews, there is one from a lovely couple whom donated alot of time and money for the "60 Sad Cows" project and was also going to help with building of the barns, they are now banished from the Gentle Barn. There is also emails to and from this couple from Ellie and Jay that you can read yourself, it is very disturbing. Number one priority is of course the animals and their care, this must be stopped as soon as possible, secondary yet very important, is the donations going to these unscrupulous couple that are taking from big hearted anmal lovers even if it is their last dime. We must get them to prove their transparency with the animals and the donations. PLEASE HELP.

Thanks to everybody. I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate this information. I know more now, than I did before about The Gentle Barn. I will now work to get something done about it. Thanks

Just to set the record straight, the Attorney General is NOT required to investigate all complaints that come into their office. Like so many other underfunded government organizations, they just do not have the staff to investigate any but the most well documented complaints about the most egregious financial issues. Given the fact that the California Attorney General has been investigating the Gentle Barn for over a year now, it makes sense that there is a very good reason for them to expend those resources. Where there is smoke, there is almost certainly fire.

I volunteer at The Gentle Barn and love it here! Don't miss out, come and get involved. There are thousands of people who love this place. Don't pay any attention to the small group of angry people with no life!

Shameful behavior by a disgruntled group who clearly have a personal vendetta against the founders. The only reason there is an investigation against them is because the state is required by law to investigate any and all claims made against any non-profit. The facts remain that no wrong-doing was discovered and they have been compliant and transparent throughout the process. The only reason it's still open is because this group is continuing to make false accusations that must be vetted by law. Shameful, putting the animals and the people who find sanctuary there at risk. Just shameful.

I have been reading the reviews about the gentle barn. The reviews that give one star and do not support the gentle barn are true. Ellie started the gentle barn when she lived in tarzana on a half acre. I knew Ellie before she started the gentle barn. She had 2 horses that she was afraid of and couldn't ride. She then started collecting other animals. Her heart was in the right place at the time. Then Jay came into the picture and saw a perfect opportunity. It was and has always been about money for Jay. They had rescued a horse together and actually kept it at my place. Jay paid his board for a while, then stopped. He skipped out on 6 months of board and medications. He took it to Ellie's where the horse was in horrible conditions and too small of a place to be in. The horse coliced and passed away. The vets had been to Ellie's on many occasions due to Ellie feeding wrong food to the animals. Animal Reg had been out on many occasions. Jay is only in it for the money as I know first hand by our conversations. At the time Jay did not know anything about farm animals and I can pretty much bet that his knowledge has not changed. Ellie and Jay will take credit for things they haven't done. Unfortunatly, they have now gotten Ellen Degeneras involved in donating and P.R. for them. Ellie has been getting lots of money through Ellen and her show. Ellen Degeneras does not know what they have done in the past or what they are doing now. It's all a show for the cameras and Ellen when she shows up. Fortunatly Ellen is doing it for the animals but does not know all of what is going on. She does not know she is being used. I have known Ellie since the beginning and before the gentle barn. I met Jay when he first came into ellie's life and business. I know their history.....

I have read all the reviews here is the bottom line. The "volunteers" that are still there are there for the animals and are so afraid of going against Elllie and Jay. When I first started I thought the same thing. Then being an adult with eyes , a heart and a mind of my own I saw neglect. As do these "volunteers" now. So turn your blind and live with yourself. I too have met the vets and chiropractors. They do exist but can only do the treatments that Ellie "the doctor" will allow them. Thats why most vets left, ask the last vets that where there. I spoke to them. They said that the welfare of the animals is their goal but not Ellie and Jays. It was almost embarrassing to listen to Jay talk about what he knows.....all he knows is eating and spending $$. Vegan my ass. Yes really!! They will rarely do diagnostics, x-rays or any kind of surgery unless its a turkey or chicken. And did you know that most of the animals that die had cancer of some sort....and goats don't get blocked!! hmmmm maybe they should call Erin Brokovitch ..Until the Attorney General deals with them please don't give your money or your time...or your mandatory "donation" at the door . Its sad for the animals there as they are all loving and deserve the best....not be in a glorified petting zoo......with a crazy person who talks to animals....

I've never seen such selfish people running a so-called animal welfare. All in all, it's basically just a petting zoo, where they call the entrance fee a "donation". The main focus is to maximise profits, but definitely not in the best interest of the animals.

I remember they put a poor cow in front of the Staples Center to advertise themselves, that's something only the Ringling Bros. would normally do.

Without some apparently hired shills, this organisation probably would have only an overall rating of 1 star. There are so many cool & trustworthy charities in California, please don't waste your money for The Gentle Barn!

Unreal, the Gentle Barn tried to take credit for a gas box closing that had been done 26 months prior to them knowing the county existed. It must have been magic when they posted "history was made" but the real truth is: "
"You will see that animals slept next to where they died. The homemade gas box was in full view of other dogs, so they could hear the cries of those shoved into the gas box. It was barbaric and inhumane to say the least.

"On October 1, 2008 we were thrilled when our request to close the homemade gas box, which had been constructed by local county garage workers, became reality. Dogs at the Harrison County Dog Pound are now euthanized by injection.

Nonetheless, Harrison County Dog Pound remains plagued with problems. The operation of this facility is substandard. There are no exterior walls. The facility itself is little more than a pavilion, on an old cracked concrete slab that directly adjoins a toxic waste site. "Prior to the fall of 2007, it had no roof whatsoever." See Ohio SPCA pound reform, "Harrison" if you want to see the real truth. Gas box closed 10/01/2008, GB appeared 12/05/10.
See this link, scroll in middle page to read: http://www.ohiospca.org/#!pound-reform/vstc3=page-3

I was surprised how freely Jay was willing to spend money... YOUR money donated, to make himself look good. Sending dogs by taxi cab to new homes with a cab driver? Really! Offering to pay rescues $1000 to take a fully vetted (and spayed/neutered dog) to make GB look good? Really! Exagerating the number of animals they helped.... with YOUR money? Really! Threatening a lawsuit against those that did not support reckless rescue (of course with YOUR donated money)? Really! Hey, people, it is YOUR money, but I think they should rename it the Jay & Ellie Foundation, as it appears to have little to do with animals, but greed and egos. Out of their mouths, they offered, they did not receive donations UNTIL they brought CHILDREN into it. Exploitation of children? Really!

This is really difficult to write, but in light of all that is happening I feel that we need more voices heard on experiences with GB. I had been a volunteer for over 2 years. Reading these reviews, there is definitely extreme opinions that go from painting Jay and Ellie as horrible people living a lavish lifestyle to the other end of the spectrum where they are saints only doing all they can to save the animals. Like most things, the truth is in the middle somewhere. Personally, I will not go back to the Gentle Barn to volunteer and it breaks my heart. In my experience with the owners of the GB, they mean well and have the best interest of the animals at heart. However, their judgment gets clouded with ego and arrogance as well as a lack of trust in not just employees, but volunteers. At times Ellie seemed to care more for the feelings of the animals or rather it was more of her projecting her own feelings and wants onto the animals, like restricting the volunteer hours severely for her and her family's benefit - not for the organization. I've seen decisions get made that did not serve the animals or the organization, but more were made to serve the owners. It's unfortunate. Both animals and people at the GB have suffered due to this. I can't say anything about the accusations of funds being mis-used as only the owners and those handling the accounts directly know the truth about that. What I did see was an arrogance in the owners and mis-trust in people that caused them to not put the animals first. To me, this is a lack of the integrity of the organization. It breaks my heart. Yes, the stalls & barnyard are clean. Yes, the grounds are immaculate. It serves the animals and looks great to visitors, but the reflects a huge control issue that the owners just can't let go of. I believe that Jay and Ellie have their hearts in the right place, but they don't always make decisions from their hearts. This means that the animals have suffered and so have the people that get close to them. Other volunteers that I was close with have had uncomfortable and bad experiences with Ellie, but I haven't. What I have experienced is all that I've stated and I hope that someone can come in to help put this organization back on track. In my opinion & experience, Ellie and Jay are not bad people, but they can have big egos that get in the way of making decisions that best serve the animals and the organization.

I am a current volunteer at the Gentle Barn and it pains me to read previous reviews by ex-volunteers (that are obviously friends because they ALL say the same thing) who seem to be starving for attention. I am dumb-founded by the things they have written. I love volunteering and love Ellie and Jay. They have been nothing but nice to me. I have personally met some of the board members, so they do exist. As far as the money going to the animals, I am not Ellie nor Jay so I cant say where it goes but I know the animals are always fed, taken care of and the place is spotless. I also know Vets, Chiropractors, massage therapist, an acupuncturist and an animal communicator come to the barn regularly. But they neglect their animals and spend all the money on themselves right?! I have also personally met a couple of the Vets, as well as, seen them come to check on the animals. So again the Vets do exist. They are, as well as the board members, NOT figments of my imagination. Yes, unfortunately some animals have passed away over the years but eventually they have to leave us. Not sure if some of the haters have read or seen on the news recently, but the Gentle Barn was just involved in rescuing animals from a backyard butcher. Oh but wait, someone said they don't rescue animals in their review and Ellie and Jay's animals are only their pets. COME ON PEOPLE!!!! I am glad to be volunteer at the Gentle Barn and I will continue to volunteer my time and money to this organization. I will also pray for the people who find it necessary to lash out because of obvious personal issues. I just feel bad the lashing out is affecting the animals as well as the organization.

An amazing, special place for families and children! The rescued animals' stories are truly inspirational. Don't miss their open Sundays!

I am another happy donor. I heard through the grapevine that runs rampant in the animal rescue community that these negative postings are from a very small disgruntled group of volunteers who ganged up and one is actually suing the Gentle Barn for a lot of money, trying to make a big buck on the backs of abused children and animals. It seems this person has their own ego involved and is putting it ahead of the well being of the animals and kids this organization helps. Time and resources allocated to the animals and children are now being squandered on this nonsense and a lawsuit because some control freak didn't get their way and felt slighted. This is all about money b/c this person is trying to line their pockets so in my objective view, I side with the Gentle Barn because this loses all credibilty for me. I know who this person is and they've actually been to my house at a fundraiser. I also know Jay and Ellie for the same reason. I work with several animal groups and know many people and this community has lots of squabbling and control issues and I've actually seen people put their own egos in front of the animals because they think they know best and know what is best for an animal over others. And this is another case of that. These few people come on and post using different screen names because they are intent on taking the GB down. I wonder why there are no new postings? Maybe b/c the lawyer told them to stop in order to make more money and preserve their lawsuit?? Who knows. There are a few people who have been sucked in by this small group who had valid concerns and are decent people but just didn't understand all the facts like Ellie loaned the GB $800K or more of her own money to keep it going and build it so maybe she tried to get paid back? I don't know but there are a few bad apples in this group influencing the other decent people with lies and then the whole thing snowballs and festers with synergy. They are led to believe that the Farm Sanctuary will 'take over' and the animals will be better off. But this is not true because the numerous donors who give to the GB are not going to suddenly start donating to the Farm Sanctuary so this will be the end of funding that could be helping more animals and children therefoe less animals rescued in the future, etc. This is a destructive effort at the expense of many animals, present and future, as well as many abused and disabled children getting help if these people get what they think is best and the GB closes. No one is going to magically take over and keep it running. No one knows how to do what Jay and Elly do or have built successfully for years. That's why there is so much jealousy. Most people would love to have accomplished this but don't have the skill sets that it takes. I've heard both sides and have spoken to people on both sides and I think this is a big mistake. In my opinion, Jay and Elly have made some mistakes and are not perfect but this hateful attempt to close the GB is outragious and cruel and at the expense of the animals and kids.

This organization is currently under investigation by California Attorney General for financial fraud. Today is May 14th, 2012 and yet Guidestar does not have tax information for The Gentle Barn for 2010 or 2011 yet. This is due to the fact that the organization has yet to file their tax documents for 2010 or 2011. Do your homework before you consider giving money to this organization. It seems they are in some very troubled waters and there is no way to know how it will turn out.

When I first went to volunteer at the GB I was elated. I had found my peace and my passion. A place where I can give and receive love. The people that were there were also fantastic. After a while when the rose colored glasses came off, I began to see what was some of the worst behavior I could imagine. The owners Ellie and her husband Jay are on a whole other planet. I planet where they are the be all end off knowing everything. They live way outside their means for a non profit salary. A boat, a wedding in Vegas , a housekeeper, lavish stuff for the kids, that believe me spared no expense. Or did it? Yes the expense of the animals. They are so delusional to think that supplements will make everything better. I have never seen so much neglect of animal care in my life. The suffering and miserable existence that some of these animals endured was horrific and when brought to their attention we were made to feel stupid and unknowing. These 2 people have NO business doing what they are doing and should be ashamed of themselves they way they treat these animals. As volunteers most of us have left , not so much of the way of how badly they treated us but the animals. Most people would wonder why we stayed but we were all worried sick for the animals we came to know and love. The evil that resides in the minds of those 2 people is unreal to me. They are not the people they portray and eventually the world will see it, just as the community there has. Their reputation w the businesses where they are located is bad...they have alienated everyone because they think they are untouchable. The animals are a reason to have that place exist and they are the reason anyone should be there. DO NOT give $$$ as it DOES NOT go to animal care, it goes to the owners. This is not a lashing out as a disgruntled volunteer its a cry for help. They must be stopped for the sake of the animals.

My concern with the Gentle Barn is the complete lack of financial oversight. They have a board, but have never had a board meeting nor produced any board minutes. They use Foundation monies for personal reasons regularly - for vacations, for their boat, for their kids, and to pay for their family therapy sessions. I believe that they do some good work with the animals and with their programs, but until the financial aspect is corrected, I would not donate money to them. Donate your time - that goes right to the animals, but your money may very likely not go to the care of the animals at all.

During my time at the gentle barn I have been verbally attacked and cussed out by Ellie, I have seen Jay whip a horse with a rope for no real reason and I have been asked to lie more than once. They are evil money hungry people who treat the volunteers and animals with no respect! Jay is really good at selling the sob stories of himself and Ellie and the animals. DONT BELIEVE HIM. I was involved there for three years and have never seen people lie about so many things. Many of the animals there are not even really rescued, they are pets that Elli and Jay decided to take in. They say they are kind and loving yet they treated me with no respect and screamed and cursed at me until I cried. They cant even produce simple answers, I asked Elli many times how old Zoe was(a horse at the GB) and she responded that she lost the paper work. Seems a little sketchy to me. Then there are the even more simple questions, where are the cows? where are the barns? who is on the board? Please do not waste any time or money on this organization. There are many real rescues that need your help.

I would be very interested to knowing exactly who these secret board members are. To date no one has ever heard of them except the previous reviewer. Surely, the names of the board members is not top secret is it? And to the other volunteers that keep talking about how wonderful and peaceful The Gentle Barn is, it is wonderful and peaceful on the surface. As long as you don't get to close and you don't know too much, you will be fine. Once you get below the surface you see the problems. One problem you really want to stay away from is Ellie and her temper. She is a verbally abusive crazy person. So sad to see. I thought for sure she was mother earth when I got there. Boy was I wrong. Such a disappointment. And for the record, I have a very full and busy life and have found someplace else to volunteer at in addition to school and work and family so I'm not sitting around with nothing to do but some things are worth shining a light on.

I am very close to someone who is on the board of The Gentle Barn and I am a donor as well as a fundraiser for charities including the Gentle Barn. I've worked with them for years and watched them grow since inception. These posted allegations prompted board members, myself and fellow donors to investige the matter. We demanded transparency as none of us were happy with what we read here nor do we wish to donate into such an alleged situation. We discovered the postings are by ex- volunteers who are angry at the Gentle Barn for personal reasons. They are not on the board or even deeply affiliated hence they have limited access to detail regarding these matters . I can understand why certain issues appeared questionable to an outsider but when we approached them with credibility and demanded transparency, we were obliged. We not only confirmed these allegations don't correlate with the examined facts presented but we learned some surprising information. Though I don't have the right to disclose the information provided without obtaining permission-I will confirm that regarding the 60 cows and barns incident, there is a credible information as to what happened and I will ask permission to post the variables as I would like to see resolution for those who are concerned. I can assure legitimate explanations as to the alleged financial accusations- there has been no immoral activity such as theft or using funds raised for charity on personal usage. In fact, though I am not at liberty to disclose details, I was astonished by certain aspects of generosity that enabled the Gentle Barn not only to exist but to flourish and the extent of hardship and risk so given at times would be nearly impossible to recoup based on what we witnessed. According to what I've seen in the animal rescue community, there seems to be a frequent occurance of personal conflict I find baffling and I've concluded there are those who are prone to jealousy, control issues, and outright drama- unfortunately at the expense of the animal's well-being and/or the functionality of organizations. I became invested in The Gentle Barn as I watched it unfold and will never forget how the abused children from group homes responded to the animal therapy. I was amazed at how this program helped these at-risk and abused kids in conjunction with at-risk animals . The place is magical and likened to heaven by the work it does. These people work so hard for little to no compensation compared to industry standards. Frankly, I'm appalled at how this misperceived resentment has catapulted into such damage when such lack of justification is apparent based upon my objective pursuit of the truth. I cannot believe people could literally have vested interest in tearing something apart without absolute substantial fact to justify it. It's baffling how defective human action can be during the reckless pursuit of revenge. The grounds are spotless, well-groomed healthy animals approach strangers with no fear only to give unconditional love to needy and broken children yet a shortsided view can be blind to see the truth in just that one lonely variable... I'm speechless and left wondering what is wrong with some people? Don't they have better things to do? Like go volunteer someplace else? Or are they so caught up in 'self-absorbtion' that they can see that there is more that matters in the world besides themselves??? Or what really matters in life???

I think it is sad that disgruntled ex-volunteers feel the need to spew such poison about such a great organization. I love The Gentle Barn. The animals are amazing and the grounds are spotless. They obviously care deeply for each and every animal and the kids who come there too. I don't know of any other organization that does the kind of work they do. I get happy every time I drive through those gates and know I get to spend time with the animals. I feel like my work there really helps them and helps kids too. How could you not like a place like that?

Please read the September review here first! It pretty much sums up the REAL Gentle Barn. The previous poster appears naive. All of us so called 'haters' actually love the mission statement of the Gentle Barn. We just don't like getting scammed. The staff IS friendly. The facility IS nice. They DO rescue animals. However, there is little to no accountability at this place. Concerned donors and volunteers voice their concerns on Facebook on "Gentle Barn Concerns". Until they clean up their act, I do NOT recommend donating to this organization.

I have to disagree with all of the negative reviews of The Gentle Barn. I love The Gentle Barn, think Ellie and Jay are amazing people. The staff and volunteers are so generous . The mission is beautiful. I guess you don't make a difference without getting haters. These reviews sounds like disgruntle misplaced crazy people. I understand you are hurt, but lashing out on every forum possible is crazy talk. Move on, make a difference and stop going after people who are making a huge difference.

After reading these reviews, I feel the need to speak out.
My experience began in May of 2010 when I heard of the Gentle Barn's plea to save '60 Sad California Cows'. My husband and I immediately made a very large donation to save these cows and to help build much needed barns. It was advertised that if they raised $100,000 then a donor would match that amount. They raised the money (all of it and thensome). My husband and I became volunteers and volunteered everyday for six months and then at least every other day for the following three (until we were kicked out). My husband is an engineer and offered to help with getting the plans for the barns through the Building Department. He even went to the Building Department with the "president". The "president" was given paperwork to complete and return. We saw that paperwork sit in the office untouched for many many weeks. My husband asked over and over if he could help get things done. He was ignored or his help was flat out refused. I guess he asked about when the barns would be built and offered to help too many times because in February of this year (2011) we were banned from volunteering.
To this date there are no cows (all mention of the cows has been deleted from the website) and there are no barns.
We had also paid for a "lifetime membership" which they refused to refund after we were banned.
We have had no recourse as there is no functioning board of directors.
Many people have told me that they have personally witnessed the misuse of donated money (donated money being used personally by the founder and her husband, the 'president').
The treatment of volunteers is horrendeous. It has now come down to the volunteers are told who they can associate with and who they can not (the 'can nots' being those of us who have questioned the founder and her husband and then subsequently banned). If the volunteers associate with someone who has been banned, they are then banned.
With all the fundraising going on and the reports and personal witnessing of funds being co-mingled, no functioning board of directors, absolutely no transparency, etc... I am failing to see how this is a justified 501c3.

I agree with the first 3 reviews. As a volunteer for several years I've witnessed a lot. One of things that bothered me most was the owner's verbal abuse of volunteers, even ones that were under 18 or elderly. They have no idea what they're doing, they claim to have a ridiculous amount of experience with animals but have proven time and again that's just not true. It would be such a wonderful place if they weren't running it any more. Then, animals could actually get adopted out to make room for more and maybe it would go back to being a sanctuary instead of the Sunday roadside petty zoo the owner claimed to despise. I've seen how stressed the animals get when there are too many people there. It's just not good for them. They've digressed from their goal for greed.

I wanted to echo the review I have just read on here regarding The Gentle Barn Foundation. I went to volunteer there at the time of the huge ''60 sad dairy cow' rescue. The concept of The Gentle Barn is a wonderful one and if it really was as it seems on the surface it would be indeed noble. However, my experience of it was rather different.

I spent long 12 hour days (sometimes longer) helping with the animals on both properties, in the office, with other volunteers, paid staff and many hours with Ellie Laks and Jay Weiner.

The volunteers were told to inform Ellie and Jay of any problem with the animals so it could be picked up and responded to, however when volunteers voiced concerns about the health of any animal they were caring for, Ellie and Jay would become enraged and/or very dismissive. They reacted suggesting that individuals suggesting an animal had a health concern were saying Ellie and Jay were not doing a good enough job.

Volunteers (without whom the place could not run) were often frightened of Ellie and Jay with good cause. I witnessed much inappropriate and aggressive behaviour towards people by Ellie and Jay. Local vets would no longer work with them and at one time this meant that an animal who was very sick was not getting the urgent treatment it required since the vet who would work for the GB had to come over 90mins in the car.

As for the 60 dairy cows, I was told by Ellie Laks and Jay Weiner themselves that they had never set eyes on the cows. Infact all that had happened is an anonymous man called the GB and said he had 60 dairy cows who were sick as he was going out of business. He asked the GB to buy them from him. The GB said they would take them, though not pay for them, I don't believe. No one at the GB had the phone number of this man neither did they have any details of the whereabouts of these cows. They posted pictures on the website of the cows only they were not the actual dairy cows. For all anyone knew, these cows didn't even exist or if they did, they certainly didn't have enough information about them to present to the public. Their fundraising was fraudulent. No one has held them accountable to the $100,000 they raised for this specific purpose.

I witnessed definite mismanagement of donations and funds given to the barn and ending up in the personal pockets of Ellie and Jay.

One day I asked who was on the board of trustees and they presented a list of names. I was then told that they had never actually met and there were no minutes or anything for any meetings.

Ellie and Jay frequently got very enraged and I felt that they were very disturbed. This would be irrelevant to The Gentle Barn if they didn't take it out on the volunteers caring for the animals meaning they were then too scared to be assertive when worried about the health of an animal. and also if it didn't mean they were blinded at times to the true state of an animal's health.

The GB has an almost cult following. Ellie and Jay are charmers at first and tend to charismatically attract certain characters who will then all but worship them. Unfortunately time and again, as soon as these individuals voiced anything that Ellie and Jay did not agree with, that volunteer was reprimanded, and eventually forced to leave, often immediately made to leave.

I realise anyone reading this may think I am a disgruntled volunteer but in fact I didn't get reprimanded or asked to leave and left on what they thought was good terms. I saw what was happening early on and set about trying to get a glimpse into all angles of the organisation whilst I could. I was deeply saddened in all honesty because the idea behind this organization is wonderful. Unfortunately without proper management, a board of directors and greater transparency, it is far far from the ideal it sets about portraying.

The Gentle Barn Foundation (a registered 501(c)3) is far from "Gentle" and far from a worthy, registered non-profit. As a volunteer, I split my time between helping the animals and working in their main office on various Foundation matters. I had direct personal contact with both of the owners, Ellie Laks and Jay Weiner, the office staff, the ranch hands and their 120+ animals. I personally witnessed inappropriate and reprehensible behavior by Ellie Laks and Jay Weiner towards both the animals, the volunteers and the staff. I witnessed animal neglect and mismanaged care of sick animals, fraudulent fundraising practices and the commingling of the Foundation's money for Laks and Weiner's personal use. While the premise of The Gentle Barn is noble, the inner workings of this Foundation are not. There is no active sitting board of directors and no financial transparency nor oversight. They use shady fundraising and advertising practices to pull on the public's heartstrings to raise money that they then spend on themselves, taking lavish vacations, purchasing personal vehicles, hiring personal masseuses, etc. While this is all fine, it is not fine if you are using donation dollars to do so, which they have and continue to do. One example, in 2010, they rolled out a large fundraising campaign to raise $100K with a $100K donor match to rescue "60 Sad California Dairy Cows" and to erect two (2) barns on their Agua Dulce property for these cows. They raised the funds, obtained the donor match and to this day have not rescued those cows nor erected those barns. Why, because their weren't "60 Sad California Dairy Cows" to rescue. Noticeably, all mention of this campaign has been removed from their website and their Facebook page. If you post an inquiry about it on their Facebook page, they will not respond, but instead they delete those postings. Further, while many of the animals came from neglected and abused backgrounds, many others have not. However, they use all of the animals in their campaigns to gain sympathy and more donation dollars with "rescue" or "neglect" stories that are simply untrue; deceiving the public further. Lastly, as human beings, Laks and Weiner lack one common denominator as responsible and worthy human beings running a non-profit: a moral compass. It is my hope, for the sake of the animals in their care, that Laks and Weiner will be publicly tested and held accountable for their actions and The Foundation will finally be made to appoint an active, responsible and proactive sitting board of directors that will finally carry out the mission of The Gentle Barn Foundation in a responsible and transparent manner: "To rescue, rehabilitate and give sanctuary to abused animals. Through the interaction with our animals people learn reverence for all."